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Post by RowdyRoddy on Jun 15, 2005 15:35:02 GMT -5
In Flair's book, there is a good article on Starrcade87. When Jim Crockett felt the urge to move the event from Greensboro/Atlanta to Chicago, he alienated fans in Virginia, Georgia, Florida, and the Carolinas. Fans from DC to Miami wanted Starrcade in the Mid-Atlantic or Southeast.
When Vince chose to show Survivor Series, it was a done deal. The Evil Empire had won out over good 'ol fashioned pro wrestling.
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Post by ssteward on Jun 16, 2005 23:52:45 GMT -5
I think Starrcade was held in Chicago because Crockett/Dusty wanted to break the regional "stigma" of being a Carolinas promotion. Great way to make an impression on the city by screwing their most popular act (and hometown heroes) out of the tag titles on that show.
Sure the Greensboro folks were upset about Starrcade not being held there in 87, but I think what really alienated those fans was the constant screw-jobs they saw month after month.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Feb 2, 2006 22:58:33 GMT -5
Dusty was the king of the screw jobs. I love how the commercial release of Starrcade 85 makes it like Dusty wins the NWA World Title for a third time.
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Post by ssteward on Feb 2, 2006 23:40:19 GMT -5
IIRC, he actually did win the title on the show, but was shortly thereafter stripped of it.
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Post by bobbyryates on Feb 3, 2006 0:02:32 GMT -5
Dusty was the king of the screw jobs. I love how the commercial release of Starrcade 85 makes it like Dusty wins the NWA World Title for a third time. more times than that...i saw he and flair do the same finish in greensboro 3 years earlier. same finish and if you didn't stay a few extra minutes, you didn't hear the announcement that the belt was returned to flair. and it was done everywhere across florida from what i have heard. |
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Feb 3, 2006 10:22:34 GMT -5
So in November 1982 the Dusty finish was created???
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Post by stompingground on Feb 3, 2006 10:23:21 GMT -5
I watched Starrcade 87 on closed circuit in Johnson City, TN. It was a fun night. I loved the show. From top to bottom I think it was one of the better Starrcades.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Feb 3, 2006 17:43:45 GMT -5
Did Mid-Atlantic start having cards in the Tri-Cities (Kingsport, Johnson City, Bristol) beginning in 1987? 1986? 1985?
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Post by stompingground on Feb 3, 2006 18:20:02 GMT -5
The first Mid-Atlantic Card that I went to in Johnson City was the Great American Bash tour in '85. This was the first Mid-Atlantic card that I knew of in the area besides shows on the outskirts. I went to a show in Damascus, VA in '77 where Flair wrestled Blackjack. From 77-85 I didn't know of any shows in the area, but we were into Southeastern and then ICW until it folded. There may have been shows before '85 in Johnson City promoted by Crockett, but I didn't know about any.
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Post by bobbyryates on Feb 3, 2006 18:47:23 GMT -5
So in November 1982 the Dusty finish was created??? i bet it was before then, we just didin't see it as much as we did once he got in MACW later on fulltime. |
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Feb 3, 2006 20:30:56 GMT -5
Here are some cards in Kingsport, TN that Mid Atlantic ran in the early 1980s
April 5, 1981
Kingsport, TN
Ric Flair/Rick Steamboat beat Greg Valentine/Roddy Piper
Tony Atlas beat Bobby Duncum
Mr. Wrestling II beat Ray Stevens
Steve Muslin beat Tenyru
April 19, 1981
Roddy Piper beat Ric Flair by DQ
Blackjack Mulligan beat The Iron Sheik in a Texas Street Fight
The Masked Superstar beat Ray Stevens
October 6, 1981
Kingsport, TN
Dusty Rhodes/Ric Flair/Wahoo McDaniel beat Ole Anderson/Roddy Piper/Austin Idol
Blackjack Mulligan beat Big John Studd
Jerry Brisco beat Les Thornton
October 20, 1981
Kingsport, TN
Ric Flair beat Roddy Piper
Blackjack Mulligan/Barry Windham beat Ole Anderson/ Big John Studd
Angelo Mosca Sr. and Bruiser fought to a draw
Ron Wright beat Kevin Sullivan
July 18, 1982
Kingsport, TN
Wahoo McDaniel beat Sgt. Slaughter
Jimmy Valiant beat Ivan Koloff
Rick Steamboat beat Gene Anderson
Tim Horner beat The Monk
Keith Larson beat Bill White
Jay Youngblood/Jake Roberts beat Private Jim Nelson and Private Don Kernoodle by DQ
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Post by bobbyryates on Feb 3, 2006 20:45:49 GMT -5
of those results, are those the Southeastern shows that JCP helped fill up the cards on with MACW talent? i noticed sullivan, bruiser, thornton, and such are mentioned.
the 10/6 date, was that brisco defending the NWA Jr title? i know he lost it back to thornton ten days later in knoxville.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Feb 3, 2006 20:49:17 GMT -5
The 1982 card was def MACW. I am not sure about the 1981 ones
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Post by GarvinStomp on Feb 14, 2006 20:42:01 GMT -5
I am going to take the other side here. I don't think Crockett taking Starrcade to Chicago was such a bad idea. Chicago was a bigger Metropolitan area with a bigger media market, etc. and Crockett I think wanted to try to make it a bigger deal. If you will recall, Crockett also went back to Chicago in '89 with Chi-Town Rumble.
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Post by bobbyryates on Feb 14, 2006 21:01:08 GMT -5
yeah, but at the same time his foundation crumbled.
MACW areas were his foundation. the rest of the US were new walls to erect. you can't build good walls without a healthy strong foundation.
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