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Post by bobbyryates on Dec 30, 2004 21:16:57 GMT -5
the early '80's gave us david sammartino and angelo mosca,jr. they of course were pushed and constantly compard to their dads and, in ways, were pushed because of that. my question is, before these two, was any other 2nd generation guys pushed like this before them? only one i can think of would be dory funk, jr.
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Post by bobbyryates on Dec 30, 2004 21:18:30 GMT -5
answer my own question, blackjack mulligan,jr was pushed as such too.
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Post by kyle on Dec 31, 2004 8:45:28 GMT -5
Lanny and Randy Poffo were in the Mid-Atlantic around 75-76. I remember seeing them team on TV several times. I don't think they really received a push. David Sammartino showed some promise but never really had the heart to make it. Mosca Jr. was really bad. Ivan Koloff appeared to be putting the holds on himself in the match when Mosca took the Mid-Atlantic title from him. Mosca never really appeared to be learning how to wrestle no matter how much they pushed him.
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Post by MacWRichmond on Dec 31, 2004 14:59:56 GMT -5
Randy and Lanny Poffo were a good young team in MACW for about a year in 1976-77...they wrestled in the middle of some cards, but rose no higher than that. Interestingly, their Dad Angelo Poffo wrestled in the area at the same time of his sons in 1976 (mainly opening bouts), but to my recollection no mention was ever made on TV of their family connection...of course, "Poffo" is a rather unique last name so it was pretty clear there might be a relation of some sort there!
Another MACW father/son wrestling relation, but somewhat obscure...Tiger Conway, Sr. came into the area around the holidays in 1976 and 1977 and wrestled with his son Tiger Conway, Jr. In 1976, the two wrestled in the big two ring Battle Royal at the annual Greensboro Thanksgiving show. At Christmas-time in 1977, the two Conways tagged together for a quick run around the circuit. Tiger Conway, Sr. even made a TV appearance with Jr. on the final Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling program of 1977.
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Post by phinney on Dec 31, 2004 16:11:59 GMT -5
Would Greg Valentine count?
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Post by MacWRichmond on Dec 31, 2004 17:04:06 GMT -5
Remember, Greg was promoted as Johnny Valentine's "brother" when Greg came to the area in 1976. Later, in 1977, an angry Wahoo came on TV and said Greg was Johnny's son...not his brother. I've always wondered what/who prompted Wahoo to go down that road!
Unlike Mosca, Jr. and Sammartino, Jr., Greg Valentine had already made a name for himself in the business by the time he came to the M-A area...so he definitely didn't need a contrived push. He could do it, and do it well, in the ring...no matter who his dad/brother was!
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Post by phinney on Jan 1, 2005 16:14:23 GMT -5
Yeah the Hammer was really good. He didn't need the name. I just thought he was billed as Johnny Valentine's son, but he was billed as his bro. Was this to hide Johnny's age?
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Post by MacWRichmond on Jan 1, 2005 21:19:08 GMT -5
That's exactly right Phinney. During the Gateway interview, Greg told me that Johnny didn't want an age backlash to start against him. At the time that Greg was starting to make his mark in the business, John was still a mega-star. Even post plane crash in 1976, Greg said John still felt the same way...apparently still harboring hopes of a comeback to the ring.
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Post by lobo on Jan 3, 2005 12:04:41 GMT -5
kelly Kiniski son of Gene - dont know if he was after David Sammartino though
The Steinbourns
Buddy Welsch had Ron & Robert Fuller
The Guerreros
The Rougeaus
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Post by Baltimore Jack on Jan 4, 2005 13:53:13 GMT -5
Here is one that is less known because of the name differences: Grizzly Smith was one of the Kentuckians in the Crockett territory in the 60s. His sons wrestled in Mid-Atlantic two decades later. Jake Roberts in the early 80s and Sam Houston in the mid-80s. PS - As I'm thinking about it, I may be confusing Grizzly Smith with Tiny Anderson. I think they both teamed with Big Boy Brown, but this was all a few years before my time, so I need someone like cwh47 to straighten me out!  |
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Post by cwh47 on Jan 4, 2005 15:16:06 GMT -5
You are exactly right Baltimore Jack.Tiny Anderson and
Jake "Grizzly"Smith are one and the same.I believe
JCP may have been the only area where the Kentuckians
were known as Tiny Anderson and Big Boy Brown.The
magazine articles I remember reading about them in
the sixties listed them as Jake Smith and Luke Brown
when they were appearing in other territories.
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Post by bobbyryates on Jan 4, 2005 16:55:59 GMT -5
i forgot about kelley kiniski, thanks for mentioning him. bob orton, jr was here but he was a star when he got to MACW. they mentioned his dad alot, but they didn't need to get him over by that relation like they did the rest.
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Post by MacWRichmond on Jan 4, 2005 21:49:52 GMT -5
Kelly Kiniski got a brief push in mid 1983...he was brought into Sir Oliver Humperdink's "House" and teamed with the One Man Gang and they held the Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles for a couple of months until Sir Oliver and OMG left the area. Other than that stint, Kelly didn't get a push in MACW and his time in the area was pretty uneventful.
It's funny, Kelly's Dad "Big Thunder" Gene Kiniski came out of the blue to Richmond in the early summer of 1982 for a U.S. Title match against Sgt. Slaughter. Once in a while, Gene was mentioned as Kelly's Dad and a former NWA Champ during Kelly's matches.
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Post by bobbyryates on Jan 4, 2005 22:05:56 GMT -5
slaughter and kiniski in '82?  ?? bet that was interesting. did gene still "have it" at all? |
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Post by cwh47 on Jan 5, 2005 6:49:39 GMT -5
I know this will be out of the time frame for this thread,
but I would like to respond about some of the other
people that lobo mentioned.Dick Steinborn,son of Milo
was a top face for Crockett Promotions in the early 60's.
Gory Guerrero was an excellent worker for JCP in the
sixties.He never seemed to make it above mid-card.I
believe son Hector wrestled under a mask as Lazertron
in the eighties.
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?? bet that was interesting. did gene still "have it" at all?