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Post by GarvinStomp on Apr 8, 2006 18:01:26 GMT -5
I just saw a poll on the WWE website that asked, "Who will win at Backlash? The McMahons or HBK and God?" I personally feel that it is blasphemous and totally wrong for HBK to exploit Jesus Christ and God's name in order to make money through a professional wrestling card where he works for a profane and worldly company. HBK professes to be a born-again Christian, yet the Bible instructs Christians not to be boastful. HBK is not trying to evangelize or win others to the Lord by doing this match. He is trying to put more money in his pocket and sell wrestling. I can liken this to in the New Testament where Jesus Christ ran the moneychangers out of the temple. The same concept applies here. God's name is not to be taken lightly and should not be exploited to sell wrestling where a mockery is made of Christianity by Vince McMahon AND Shawn Michaels. This is totally wrong. I am disgusted at Shawn Michaels. My view of him is that he is another one of these charismatic, pentecostal, poser types that is in the same vain as Jim Baker and PTL (Preachers Taking Loot). HBK obviously is the type who wants people to see him and put on a show and hide the real HBK. People like HBK hurt the Christian ministry and it is evil.
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Post by The Hammer on Apr 8, 2006 18:56:01 GMT -5
Very well said. It almost seems as if Vince thinks he is bigger than GOD. Austin 3:16, HHH calling himself the King of Kings, and now this. It all seems blasphemous to me.
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Post by precious1 on Apr 8, 2006 19:11:32 GMT -5
You have to remember here that Vince holds all the cards. HBK only does what Vince makes him do. Sometimes people do what they have to to make a living in this world and only HBK can answer to God for the decisions he makes.
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 8, 2006 19:19:33 GMT -5
very true, but....when does one say no? i can't speak for shawn or anyone else, but if your boss told you to do something you didn't want to do for religious beliefs, when will you say no and refuse to do it?
i think the answer to my question is a different answer for everybody. we can all say we would say "no or whatever when and where of this and that" but we really don't know until the occassion would come to us. obviously, shawn either sees nothing wrong with what's going on, or he is exactly like what has already been suggested. we don't know his heart, but we can see the fruits of his labor. the bible also tells us to judge righteously...well, let's just say there's a reason why i don't watch this stuff.
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Post by clayton on Apr 8, 2006 20:16:35 GMT -5
i admire the entrance hbk makes as he comes to the ring where he kneels. i agree with the other posts on here that c it as hbk doin what vinnie mac says. this as far as i am concerned is the last straw for me and vinny mac. i was thinking of this the other nite and yes i truly believe that vince thinks hes bigger than God. i wont tune in any more to the trash and filth associated with the wwe. the Bible tells us that God will bring to their kness the proud. when God does bring vince down hopefullt the wwe as we now c it will crumble and then the true wrestlin fans will win.
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Post by GarvinStomp on Apr 8, 2006 20:19:02 GMT -5
The problem is that Vince McMahon says repeatedly out in public that they don't make the wrestlers do anything they are uncomfotable with. I agree with Bobby, when does one say no? Sting became a born again Christian and then made the choice to stay away from WWE when the opportunity arose. Ted Dibiase came out at one point and said that Austin 3:16 mocked the God he serves. HBK has not really taken a stand at all. And now the rumor is circulating that he "suck it" chopped at wrestlemania. My intent is not necessarily to judge the man, but the way the stuff is coming across is that it seems to be some sort of mockery.
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Post by bluedevil71 on Apr 8, 2006 20:19:15 GMT -5
Shawn is doing what Vince tells him to do. If he doesn't, he'd would probably be fired. Now, if Shawn wants to be truthful with his Christianity here and doesn't want to exploit the situation, he won't do this and understand that God will support him and his decision and be with him, even though Shawn probably wouldn't be employed with WWE, one would believe.
Furthermore, Shawn quite possibly is or will ask for God's help and forgiveness in dealing with this matter, all the while trying to continue putting food on the table. I don't know, but I would imagine Shawn either A) Doesn't like the situation or B) Doesn't care, which in turn wouldn't make him much of a Christian.
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 8, 2006 21:50:47 GMT -5
amen clayton. that's the day i am waiting for. the day that vince has to sell his video library to stay afloat. that libray has the concept of something to fall back on, i don't want him to have anything to fall back on. i just want hi to fall.
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Post by bluedevil71 on Apr 8, 2006 22:21:30 GMT -5
i admire the entrance hbk makes as he comes to the ring where he kneels. i agree with the other posts on here that c it as hbk doin what vinnie mac says. this as far as i am concerned is the last straw for me and vinny mac. i was thinking of this the other nite and yes i truly believe that vince thinks hes bigger than God. i wont tune in any more to the trash and filth associated with the wwe. the Bible tells us that God will bring to their kness the proud. when God does bring vince down hopefullt the wwe as we now c it will crumble and then the true wrestlin fans will win. LOL. I love this post. |
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Post by fredatl on Apr 8, 2006 22:21:53 GMT -5
Folks....I'm amazed that so many are fooled by this "Born Again Wrestler" angle.
It's a phenomenon of about 7 or 8 years ago when wrestlers starting using religion to breathe life into waining wrestling careers.
Standard process is enjoy a wild life, make lots of money, enjoy the wine, women, song, (drugs) and then as the career and the body start to fall apart....they are "Born Again" and make the church circuit, preaching about the evils of the life they enjoyed for so many years, and wrestling in church annexes somewhere in front of 47 people.
I've seen Ivan in his Russian Chain matches, blood flowing everywhere, and then after the match, he tries to preach and spread the word. Please.
As for HBK doing what Vince wants.....if that's the case, then either HBK realized that Vince is bigger than God, or at least Vince pays better.
If God really wanted to be led by wrestlers, they why doesn't he give them the skills and abilities to be on top BEFORE the end of their careers instead of using religion to try and safe a career....
OK...let the flames being. (You'll pray for me later.)
Fred
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 8, 2006 23:07:23 GMT -5
i'm with ya fred.
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Post by acezappa on Apr 9, 2006 14:34:57 GMT -5
I see both sides of the story, and can't necessarily speak on whether HBK is saved for real or if the religious angle is a work. I'm not a religious person, but when Vince announced this match, I was a tiny bit shocked. But I have heard that HBK has refused to do certain angles due to his religious beliefs, so the only thing I can think is that where this storyline is going is actually going to make religion look good. Stranger things have happened, and I won't be surprised if it does go the other way. In fact, I had read somewhere that they had asked HBK to turn heel again, but he refused, which is why he had to job to Hogan last year. The funny thing is, while people were booing him against Hogan, I was loving every minute of it because everything he said was absolutely true. I can definitely see where people would be instantly upset with this angle, but I'm just going to wait and see what happens with it.
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 9, 2006 15:53:02 GMT -5
my initial thought about this match was one of two things:
1. it will be a handicap match and michaels will praise God for helping him win.
2. 'God" will be a fullbodied wrestler...like bret hart to play the new character of God. that would be an interesting twist, but i would never put money on it being a possibility.
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Post by bluedevil71 on Apr 9, 2006 16:51:51 GMT -5
my initial thought about this match was one of two things: 1. it will be a handicap match and michaels will praise God for helping him win. 2. 'God" will be a fullbodied wrestler...like bret hart to play the new character of God. that would be an interesting twist, but i would never put money on it being a possibility. Oh gosh, if they do the full-body deal that would just be something Vince would do now wouldn't it. Furthremore, Vince would probably pin "God" and proclaim all sorts of things. Jeez. |
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 9, 2006 17:21:30 GMT -5
you got it.
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