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Post by phinney on Jul 7, 2005 1:12:13 GMT -5
I do not have a dvd burner, but I could put it on vhs?
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Post by wreckingcrew on Jul 7, 2005 9:22:37 GMT -5
Reading all the differences of yesterday and today- I agree that the "magic"that drew so many of us in is not there on the national level.
Adding hope to that-my dad always used to tell me how wrestling is like a merry-go-round and that it always comes back around. I did not believe most of what he said at the time "I knew it all." But the interest in these old school matches in the Gyms, and Rec. centers I think I see a turn for it I just hope it is sooner than later.
p.s.I have worked on some great shows lately, But Spartanburg last Feb. 19th was "magic"
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Post by blaketown on Jul 12, 2005 9:37:08 GMT -5
it's a diferent crowd. back then, there were real wrestling fans. now, it's kids and a fad. at least to me it is. Thats not true. Im a huge wrestling fan and im 15. i have been for 3 years. But all of you people making comments that wrestling was better back then really need to shut the hell up. Im sure that all of you started watching wrestling as a kid and thats why your all saying it was better then than now. Its pathetic, why cant you accept that the 80's wrestling has gone. Wrestlers get huge pops these days as well. It just has more entertainment in it. |
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Post by stompingground on Jul 12, 2005 10:04:19 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the 80's. We studied a thing called grammar back then. Since then we have a new device called spell check. "All of use people" That's rich. Priceless.
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Post by blaketown on Jul 12, 2005 10:56:11 GMT -5
What, gonna bash me cause we have more character then you had. Pretty sad man
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Post by stompingground on Jul 12, 2005 12:18:55 GMT -5
I remember being 15. Flair was in a feud with Jimmy Garvin. Not my favorite feud, but the matches were good. My great uncle Clarence (rest his soul) was a huge old school fan. He would tell me stories of Bobo, Rogers, Ron Wright, all of the oldies. There were some tapes out of the old Big Time wrestling. At the time I thought it was awful. Nothing but head locks and arm-bars. Today, I can watch Rogers wrestle Carpentier and enjoy it; then I couldn't.
The eighties was a bridge between the old school sport and today's entertainment. My uncle would say, "Back in my day, wrestling was real. This stuff you watch is all talk and cartoons."
I guess he was right, but I can say the same thing today. 15 years from now, what will wrestling look like? Can you imagine that somebody will say, "Back in 2005 wrestling was really great; today in 2020 its just too silly"?
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Post by HardcoreHeroes on Jul 12, 2005 12:57:56 GMT -5
What, gonna bash me cause we have more character then you had. Pretty sad man Okay, guys. Time for me to say get back to the subject at hand. We can discuss these things without the personal attacks. Now back to business.... |
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Post by bluedevil71 on Jul 12, 2005 13:23:57 GMT -5
Wrestling today is/can be entertaining. The difference is that there is a different kind of entertainment than what others, myself included, grew up with in the 70s and 80s. There was more believability in it before than there is now. Today it's all a show. Before it used to be more of the wrestling style; today it's more a show, a theatre production, a circus.
I'm not a fan of today's product, but it doesn't mean that it's not entertaining to others or can't be entertaining. It would be interesting to see what the reaction would be if the roles were reversed and if it used to be more "sports entertainment" in the 70s and 80s and more wrestling now, how people would feel differently.
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Post by bobbyryates on Jul 12, 2005 14:56:13 GMT -5
keep your eyes opened because that is the direction it may be going. with all the crap, that some people think that i apparantly need to shut up about, has run it's course, people are starting to appreciate and expect more of an atheletic show than this garbage that is presented these days.
now back to you blaketown...yep you are right, i did start watching when i was young, but guess what, when i started, it was PRO WRESTLING, not a bunch of near naked women with no talent other than the latest silicone implant can help. and the men worked instead of stand in the ring and let a gimmick control the match instead of the moves they did back then.
sorry, if you never saw it back then, then you can't comprehend what we love so much. but you have no reason to tell us to shut up.
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Post by Bradshaw0012 on Jul 12, 2005 16:47:39 GMT -5
I don't even consider today's product as "wrestling". In fact, if you listen to what is said on TV, they don't even refer to it as wrestling....it's the all too often cliche "sports entertainment", or "the business" or "the industry". Professional wrestling in it's truest form is lost (with some exceptions), so I really don't make any comparison between "past vs. present". In my opinion, and to quote George South, it's more a matter of "right and wrong".
Why don't people pop when the stars walk out? Notice even entrances have become scripted with pyro and hot dog routines with no personal interraction that become repetative and stale. For example, how many times am I supposed to be impressed with Triple H spitting water and posing from the apron after he's done it in every match for the past five years? What's exciting about that?
Also, there is nothing special about seeing the wrestlers anymore. You never saw the World Champion wrestle every week, much less there were times you never saw the World Champion at all on TV some weeks. So once he walked out in the arena, you popped, because you were seeing something big. Same thing with most of the big stars. Most times you only saw Dusty Rhodes on TV in an interview. But when he came out to wrestle, the crowd went nuts.
Nevermind the absence of psychology, ring work, selling, heat.....but that's another rant in it's own.
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Post by bobbyryates on Jul 12, 2005 16:52:45 GMT -5
true words bradshaw.
BTW, good to see back here again. been missing not going to lenoir and catching up with you.
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Post by Bradshaw0012 on Jul 12, 2005 18:08:14 GMT -5
Same here, Bobby. Glad to be back. I'll be there in Lenoir when they start up again. We've got unfinished business with Dusty!
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Post by bobbyryates on Jul 12, 2005 18:59:34 GMT -5
sounds like a plan.  and you know he'll be there. |
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Post by natureboy14 on Jul 14, 2005 19:20:01 GMT -5
but we would miss stardust if he wasnt around for us to holler at, to root against, etc.............
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Post by bobbyryates on Jul 14, 2005 20:30:09 GMT -5
you sure about that???
until the first fanfest, i hadn't seen him since, well over a decade plus. i didn't miss him one bit.
where's that puking smiley when you need it?
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