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Post by jblcenafan on Oct 23, 2006 17:35:52 GMT -5
Greg , I have met Flair 3 times , but man if he ever did a fanfest it would be awesome in his own town. Anyway you could work it from him being in the first Saturday morning signing so he could work a WWE event that night to him maybe doing a Flair only Friday Night Signing if WWE wanted him available to themselves Sat and Sunday this would be awesome. Not sure of the red tape and I know lots of people have brought him up in the past and I just want to throw my name in the hat of people that want him to appear.
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Post by mgcrans on Oct 23, 2006 18:39:55 GMT -5
Greg said in another post that things were looking good for Flair being at the very first fanfest (as far as WWE was concerned), but Ric was going to a competition his son was involved with that weekend in Columbus, OH (I was at a WWE Raw House Show in Youngstown, OH the same weekend as the first fanfest and Flair was at that house show.)
Greg also said the last few times he has asked Flair about being at a fanfest, he got the impression that Flair wasn't interested in being there.
I agree, however. I met Flair very briefly once at HWA's Pillmam 99. He was nice, but he wasn't allowed to sign anything in the picture line. He told me to get his attention during the actual show, but I was never able to. I have been hoping to meet him again since then, but never have.
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Post by slickric1976 on Oct 27, 2006 10:27:48 GMT -5
We need to get Flair to this Fanfest he would be so big to the show and a Flair only Friday would be the best you could do 8x10's and have a auto line also.
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Post by stylin61 on Oct 27, 2006 12:18:43 GMT -5
Since you can only move so many through the fanfest itself, I don't know if you could draw more people to justify the expense. The only way I could see it happening would be if there were a Flair only session that was a separate ticket with it's own cost. The you would be able to figure out how many people you could accomodate in the given time and how much it would cost per person (with a profit figured in). Then you could do it as a pre-sale and know ahead of time you'd make money off it. Especially if you could do the photo and autograph together. There is much less risk here than booking Flair for an appearance someplace and just hoping that paying customers will walk-up. Plus with fanfest you'd have a ready-made customer base. The only drawback would be that you'd need to keep him exclusive to those who attend because if he walks through the hotel he's going to get mobbed for freebies.
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Post by aaron on Oct 28, 2006 18:50:43 GMT -5
I agree, however. I met Flair very briefly once at HWA's Pillmam 99. He was nice, but he wasn't allowed to sign anything in the picture line. He told me to get his attention during the actual show, but I was never able to. I have been hoping to meet him again since then, but never have. I too was at the Pillman 99' show and also got a pic with Flair. He was polite but I think he was distracted when Missy Hyatt walked into the room.  Like you, that's the only time I've ever met Flair. Small world. |
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Post by ssteward on Oct 28, 2006 21:50:28 GMT -5
I'd like to see Flair at a Fanfest for sure, but I don't really think it will happen because I don't see him take a lot of outside bookings.
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Post by sittingstill on Oct 28, 2006 22:40:23 GMT -5
And not only that but the WWE factor itself (Dusty, Lawler, Billy Graham - all dubious) - even if it was signed and announced my gut feeling would be that it would be cancelled....whether months before or at the last moment....
Plus....just like Stylin'61 said....Flair would likely be more of a draw than the entire Fanfest itself. Likely WWE don't know that specifically about Flair as their unofficial policy internally appears to be HHH and Hogan are the only draws in wrestling. But likely the lines would be so long, that actually selling individual autograph ops for Flair might be the only way to do it. And that would generate so much extra cash that Flair would command a ridiculous payoff....and you'd get so many people pissed off because there would only be a finite amount of auto-ops available, and so not everyone would get autographs from the biggest draw at Fanfest....
Maybe I'm wrong....I'd like to meet him more than all but a few....and maybe logistically it wouldn't be that much more difficult to set up than Bret. But I'd be skeptical of how it'd work on so many levels....I mean, if WWE see how much money could be generated, they could just pull him the week before and set up their own Flair signing and photo-op for $40 a-piece at the Doubletree in downtown Charlotte, knowing that a ton of wrestling fans from all over are in town for Fanfest anyway....
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Post by lotrboss on Oct 29, 2006 9:25:02 GMT -5
I like the idea of "Flair Friday" is great
I know from promoting past wwe signing events that if done right
you can get 500 fans through the line in 2 hours with polaroids and autographs. it just needs to be controlled and run properly
the only setback is that Gregs fans are "trained" to paying a door fee and getting autos included and getting mass amounts of stuff signed at a time thus taking advantage of the system.
I think a 30.00 fee for a polaroid and autographed photo would be fair and enough to cover flairs fee and cost which I know already but will not share with anyone at Gregs past requests.
it should also only be open to ticket holders for the weekend events influencing higher ticket sales.
I feel wwe owes Greg for the SBG BS and since Flair is already in Charlotte and usually off the road on a friday night
logistically it could work.
WWE might also be a little less caring since it would be a "flair only signing"
It can be done... I guess time will tell.
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Post by stylin61 on Oct 30, 2006 10:52:13 GMT -5
I think lotrboss and me are kind of on the same page. Do it as an entirely separate ticket that you buy in advance. Know your limit which lotrboss says 500 in 2 hours is reasonable. Your ticket would apply only to Flair and guarantee the photo and autograph. I'd pay an extra $30 - $40 for that. I don't mind paying extra for what I perceive as a service that is clearly above and beyond the normal fanfest experience. Some may complain but you have the option to take it or not & it comes down to whether or not you want it enough to pay extra. This is the only way I can see moving Flair through. As I said before you'd have to keep him out of the lobby, etc. to keep him from being mobbed for freebies. The paying customers wouldn't be happy to see that. I think if done correctly this could work and add a nice bit of revenue for Greg - if he wanted to attempt it.
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Post by HardcoreHeroes on Oct 30, 2006 16:14:05 GMT -5
I think lotrboss and me are kind of on the same page. Do it as an entirely separate ticket that you buy in advance. Know your limit which lotrboss says 500 in 2 hours is reasonable. Your ticket would apply only to Flair and guarantee the photo and autograph. I'd pay an extra $30 - $40 for that. I don't mind paying extra for what I perceive as a service that is clearly above and beyond the normal fanfest experience. Some may complain but you have the option to take it or not & it comes down to whether or not you want it enough to pay extra. This is the only way I can see moving Flair through. As I said before you'd have to keep him out of the lobby, etc. to keep him from being mobbed for freebies. The paying customers wouldn't be happy to see that. I think if done correctly this could work and add a nice bit of revenue for Greg - if he wanted to attempt it. Folks, I think your numbers are a little off here. First, I've never seen anyone anywhere that can put 500 people through a line in 2 hours with any type of personal contact between the fan and wrestler. To get that many people through, it has to be snap, snap, snap. And that's just for autographs. When you add Photo Ops, too, well......I just don't think it can be done. Second, I don't think you're gonna find 500 people that will pay $30 or $40 extra just for Flair. Honestly, I don't think you could find 100, and that's not being personal. Just realistic. And that won't cover the fees it would cost to make it happen. |
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Post by themaestro on Oct 30, 2006 17:55:48 GMT -5
I think lotrboss and me are kind of on the same page. Do it as an entirely separate ticket that you buy in advance. Know your limit which lotrboss says 500 in 2 hours is reasonable. Your ticket would apply only to Flair and guarantee the photo and autograph. I'd pay an extra $30 - $40 for that. I don't mind paying extra for what I perceive as a service that is clearly above and beyond the normal fanfest experience. Some may complain but you have the option to take it or not & it comes down to whether or not you want it enough to pay extra. This is the only way I can see moving Flair through. As I said before you'd have to keep him out of the lobby, etc. to keep him from being mobbed for freebies. The paying customers wouldn't be happy to see that. I think if done correctly this could work and add a nice bit of revenue for Greg - if he wanted to attempt it. Folks, I think your numbers are a little off here. First, I've never seen anyone anywhere that can put 500 people through a line in 2 hours with any type of personal contact between the fan and wrestler. To get that many people through, it has to be snap, snap, snap. And that's just for autographs. When you add Photo Ops, too, well......I just don't think it can be done. Second, I don't think you're gonna find 500 people that will pay $30 or $40 extra just for Flair. Honestly, I don't think you could find 100, and that's not being personal. Just realistic. And that won't cover the fees it would cost to make it happen. I agree with Greg about the 2 hours and 500 people. It makes no sense at all. 2 hours is 120 minutes or 7200 seconds. 7200 seconds divided by 500 people. That is 14.4 seconds per person for a picture and autograph. That's obviously completely not feasible. I would think it would have to be 3 hours and 300 people (36 seconds per person). It would also have to be about $75 per person at this rate in my estimation. A steep price to pay (I would personally pay it). I disagree about people not paying $40 extra to meet Flair, and if you are going to pay $40, you are a real Flair fan, and would pay $75. Just my opinion... |
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Post by lotrboss on Oct 30, 2006 21:03:31 GMT -5
Ive done 550 photos and polaroids in less then 2 hours for
Kane- the new age outlaws and the Rock (seperate signings)
I had 770 people through a line in 2.5 hours for Bret hart back in 98
it is possible it is snap snap snap unfortunately
It is possible to do and I feel that it would draw huge and be a financial success
but that is just my opinion and i feel people would pay 30 bucks extra for flair they might bitch and moan on these message boards but they will be there in line with their 30 bucks in their hand..
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Post by HardcoreHeroes on Oct 30, 2006 22:04:24 GMT -5
It is possible to do and I feel that it would draw huge and be a financial success but that is just my opinion and i feel people would pay 30 bucks extra for flair they might bitch and moan on these message boards but they will be there in line with their 30 bucks in their hand.. No disrespect, but if you believe it would "draw huge and be a financial success," you should book that for your next convention you've plugged on here. With all that said -- and I have jumped in on this thread because I don't see the examples given as reasonable -- I will ALWAYS try to get Ric Flair at EVERY fanfest. I don't want anyone to think that I'm opposed to getting Flair. I just don't think the math adds up in the examples given previously in this thread. |
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Post by jblcenafan on Oct 30, 2006 22:45:13 GMT -5
Basically , Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling , The NWA , and WCW all have one face connected with them... Ric Flair! Regardless if it is only autographs , only photo opps , any Flair is better than no Flair. How about Flair Friday only open to VIPS? Of course , I know it takes more than that , you can't just snap your finger and make anyone come to Fanfest but Flair is THE name people always look at and say , "He is wrestling , he was our Hulk Hogan". This area was raised on Ric Flair...
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Post by stylin61 on Oct 31, 2006 8:20:05 GMT -5
It is possible to do and I feel that it would draw huge and be a financial success but that is just my opinion and i feel people would pay 30 bucks extra for flair they might bitch and moan on these message boards but they will be there in line with their 30 bucks in their hand.. No disrespect, but if you believe it would "draw huge and be a financial success," you should book that for your next convention you've plugged on here. With all that said -- and I have jumped in on this thread because I don't see the examples given as reasonable -- I will ALWAYS try to get Ric Flair at EVERY fanfest. I don't want anyone to think that I'm opposed to getting Flair. I just don't think the math adds up in the examples given previously in this thread. You are right Greg, I did not do the math just went off lotr's numbers. I understand that he has been able to do it before but just doing it extremely fast which is probably not how you would want to do it so we could have a few moments. I understand that you try to get Ric but he is probably either unavailable or I am sure costs a fortune especially since you would have to go through the E to get him. My take was more theorzing on how it could be possible without all the expense going into the general fanfest and possibly making less funds available to book 3 or 4 other less expensive names, plus keeping the event limited enough to move everyone through comfortably and make some money. Not knowing how much a name like Flair commands I was only speculating, by the time you add in making a profit I do not doubt it is prohibitive. I also agree with lotr in that a few people may cry here about paying extra but a lot of them will pay it. I think you would draw more than 100 if you did it with the fanfest crowd in town. |
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Like you, that's the only time I've ever met Flair. Small world.
