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Post by HardcoreHeroes on Aug 27, 2005 3:55:24 GMT -5
Okay, I must admit I never heard about this until I started getting calls on Monday after fanfest. At first, I ignored them but after several more inquiries, I decided to call Ole to ask.
Before I elaborate, let me explain something. Ole and most of the legends come from a time when there was no merchandising contracts, no trademarks on your likeness, etc. Each individual wrestler produced and sold their own memorabilia.
Now, fast forward to today.
According to Ole, he was signing at Scott Teal's booth when a fan brought a 16x20 Horsemen photo to him to sign. Sure, Ole had seen these before as I've offered them at previous fanfests. Since the photo had been signed by Ric Flair, Ole asked the fan where he got it. He was told he bought it at a nearby booth for 40 bucks.
Ole approached the booth, saw it was David that was selling the photos, and Ole asked him what he was doing. David said he'd stop selling them, and Ole told him something to the effect of he "thought he had more brains" than to do something like that, and walked off.
That's the story. It's not juicy, as some have made it out to be, but I believe this to be closer to fact than anything I've heard yet.
On this same subject, I want to hear from folks that made it by David's booth early in the weekend when there was a "raffle" advertised, I believe for one of Ric Flair's robes.
In the week leading up to fanfest, I'd bumped into David at Highspots and had an opportunity to hear a comment about him raffling off a robe, but having a fictitious winner and not really giving the robe away.
When I saw the robe and raffle signs at the booth, I immediately reminded the vendor that we have no raffles beyond the two charity raffles. I certainly wasn't going to be a party to a raffle scam, something similar to what Manny Fernandez was arrested for a few years back at an indy show around here.
I can't say that David was going to scam anyone, but after hearing him jokingly make the comment earlier in the week, I knew I wanted no part of it at fanfest weekend.
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Post by bobbyryates on Aug 27, 2005 15:33:59 GMT -5
i've said on a few boards, it didn't happen. i'm never wrong.
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Post by phinney on Aug 27, 2005 18:20:18 GMT -5
Bobby, you are ALWAYS wrong......jk
Anyway, other members who ended up talking to Ole after say that Ole was half-joking, Ole being Ole.
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Post by bobbyryates on Aug 27, 2005 19:26:37 GMT -5
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Post by pinkandblack on Aug 27, 2005 19:58:02 GMT -5
Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention, or got there after the signs were taken down, but I never actually saw anything about a raffle of the black robe... And from what I gathered, David had no intention of raffling it off - for real or as a scam.
I went by the booth David was at several times, got several GREAT shots of both the robe and the mink coat. He must have guessed that I was clueless about the significance of the mink coat & the storyline that went with it, so he filled me in on the details.
I told him I wish he'd brought Ric's blue robe and somewhat-jokingly suggested he raffle off the black one - while I still had money left to spend! He said that both the black robe & the mink coat were HIS, which I took to mean that he had no intention of selling / raffling either of them. So, I had to settle for buying an autographed photo of Ric in his white robe.
I am now disappointed to learn that he had suggested (and apparently attempted) a phony raffle for the robe.
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Post by bluedevil71 on Aug 27, 2005 20:24:42 GMT -5
i've said on a few boards, it didn't happen. i'm never wrong. don't get too full of yourself here. LOL. I'm never wrong. JK |
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Post by bluedevil71 on Aug 27, 2005 20:31:26 GMT -5
Seriously, I didn't see it and honestly, I don't care if it happened or not. But I do believe David mentioned it in passing to another person, who I regularly have contact with. Nevertheless, water under the bridge.
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Post by simm on Aug 28, 2005 14:07:34 GMT -5
I have always found David to be pleasant to deal with and very friendly. As I stated in another thread, my 9 year old son approached David with a WCW picture book from the late 90's that he was using for his autos for the weekend and David gladly signed the book with no questions asked. However, when going through the line on Friday, when my 9 year old son presented the book to Ole on the stage, he looked over the book and asked Paul Jones, who was sitting beside him, to "find the title page and see when that book was made." He then proceeded to tell my 9 year old how the WCW was his company and it had been stolen from him and sold out from under him and about all the money he was swindled out of. I then took the book and told my son to move on. He's griping to a 9 year old!!! I had heard alot on the board about Ole and his grudges but this was my first time meeting him and I now tend to believe what I have heard after seeing the way he delt with my son.
That said, if Ric signs pics and figures for David to help him generate revenue, so what?? From what I've gathered talking to Ric and David personally and other convention promoters who have tried to get Ric to come to their event, I doubt we'll ever see Ric at any of these conventions, so if Dave can offer fans Ric's items, so be it and Ole needs to move on. I don't know about the raffle so I cannot comment on that, I just thought it was neat seeing one of his robes on display.
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Post by Baltimore Jack on Aug 29, 2005 7:45:58 GMT -5
I've spoken to two people who were eye-witnesses to the brief altercation between Ole Anderson and David Flair at Fanfest, and there was a little more to it than the sanitized version Ole presented above, including a derogatory comment he made about David's dad. Ole is quite familiar with the 16 x 20's, he signed a stack of them at the first Fanfest. There is no doubt he has a point (we'd all probably feel the same way if someone was selling pictures we were in), but realistically, what was he hoping to accomplish? Out of the dozens of items with his image or likeness on it at that Fanfest (photos, DVDs, magazines, etc.) he decides to go after David? I guess he accomplished what he wanted, as David was visibly shaken after the altercation, and packed up and left not long after it happened.
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Post by HardcoreHeroes on Aug 29, 2005 8:42:08 GMT -5
I've spoken to two people who were eye-witnesses to the brief altercation between Ole Anderson and David Flair at Fanfest, and there was a little more to it than the sanitized version Ole presented above, including a derogatory comment he made about David's dad. Ole is quite familiar with the 16 x 20's, he signed a stack of them at the first Fanfest. There is no doubt he has a point (we'd all probably feel the same way if someone was selling pictures we were in), but realistically, what was he hoping to accomplish? Out of the dozens of items with his image or likeness on it at that Fanfest (photos, DVDs, magazines, etc.) he decides to go after David? I guess he accomplished what he wanted, as David was visibly shaken after the altercation, and packed up and left not long after it happened. I'm certainly not taking sides on this, but I think the part that got Ole on this was that someone was selling the photo for $40. I think it was the cost of the photo more than anything else. I would like to hear an eyewitness account of what happened, as it seems so far all we have is "he said, she said". |
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Post by stingmark on Aug 29, 2005 21:48:31 GMT -5
I'm certainly not taking sides on this, but I think the part that got Ole on this was that someone was selling the photo for $40. I think it was the cost of the photo more than anything else. I would like to hear an eyewitness account of what happened, as it seems so far all we have is "he said, she said". I'm not trying to "hijack" this thread, but I'm curious to know what Greg plans on doing regarding Nulty being an ass to 2 guys who were not only disappointed by his words/actions, but also pissed off. I can say that Graham and myself conducted ourselves very well& were class acts about it.. I wanted to go off on Nulty for being a Jackass that day(Sunday), but didn't want to be the scapegoat/message board material for someone else to go off on because we ruined FF by stooping to his level. Yes, we do have several witnesses that heard your Jackassedry/Rudeness toward's us. Mark, as I said, I'm very disappointed in you. I feel that Nulty should be forced to "take a break" from the FF's for a year or so. Or, maybe someone just needs to sit him down and tell him to "BE NICE"! when he's out in public? Greg, if you don't know what I'm talking about? it's explained in the "vendors" thread here. |
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Post by ncringfan on Aug 30, 2005 15:43:22 GMT -5
What is the point of bringing that up here??
Okay, let's take Nulty out an shoot him, beat him senseless for committing such a crime. C'mon HH, they demand to know what's going to happen to Nulty! Tell us now!
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Post by ncringfan on Aug 30, 2005 15:45:21 GMT -5
Getting back on topic, HH called up Ole and got his side of the story. Was the same done for David Flair? What is his side of the story directly from him?
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Post by ssteward on Aug 30, 2005 17:38:15 GMT -5
I doubt Flair has enough credibility with HH to warrant such a call, after what he was heard saying at Highspots
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Post by flair4life on Sept 5, 2005 17:35:43 GMT -5
The Post and Courier's Mike Mooneyham down here in Charleston covered the whole Flair/Ole incident in his column on Sunday for those interested: www.mikemooneyham.com/pages/viewfull.cfm?ObjectID=24AA68C2-3048-52EA-1E1C35018265DEFBMike knows both Ole (Ole mentions Mike at the very beginning of his book) and Flair (Ric Flair mentions his relationship with Mike in his book as well) personally and typically has the most accurate information because it's always directly from the source. |
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