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Post by Bradshaw0012 on Feb 26, 2005 13:14:06 GMT -5
Without re-hashing all of the points alreaqdy noted (and agreed upon)...... one thing that really sticks out to me is the initial run-in of Paul E Dangerously, Randy Rose and Dennis Condrey on Cornette, Eaton and Lane on TBS; where Cornette jucied all over the studio. That monent is still etched into my memory.
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Post by WorldWideWilliam on Mar 5, 2005 9:28:05 GMT -5
My favorite moment of 1988? Barry Windham dropping Lex Loser like third period French. Anything the Horsemen were involved in was money, and this was great! Watching Windham walk slowly to the locker room with four fingers raised, I just knew that the Horsemen just got that much better.
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Post by stompingground on Mar 14, 2005 16:50:17 GMT -5
I'm with William. I just re-watched the Bash 88 and was impressed with Windham against Dusty. I do wish that Garvin could have stuck around as a Bad guy after turning on Dusty. I grew up watching Garvin every week in Johnson City, TN and he was a great bad guy when he would turn.
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Post by JNance on Mar 14, 2005 19:08:09 GMT -5
Agreed. Windham joining the Horsemen; the Road Warriors turning bad and winning the NWA titles, andSting & Luger winning the Crockett Cup made 1988 a great year. Also the Fantastics/MX feud !
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Post by VR on Apr 1, 2005 2:29:50 GMT -5
While I still enjoyed watching out of habit more than anything, JCP crapped out by the end of 1986. We have all gone over the reasons multiple times, at KM and WC both.
One thing that I was tired of was the rehashing of angles and talent. Shuffle and mix and match. I know many fans believe the Horsemen of 88 with Windham were some how superior, for the four months that they were together, but I just don't see it.
Don't get me wrong I enjoy Windham, top-ten fave. I just noticed the talent wearing really thin. Windham would of been great as a kick arse heel against a face Flair. Speaking of Flair, he had very little to work with, but made the best out of it and set to stars up in Sting and Luger within a four month span. To bad they inked big deals and phoned home too much.
Arn and Tully were a fine team, but, Tully was always to valuable as a solo act, and Arn, underutilized post 86. He dwindled for the most part of 87 as if Rhodes had nothing for him to do. Arn was red hot in 85 and 86. Arn Anderson never got his shot after Ole left. And as far as im concerned that is a booking crime. Arn was damn great and believable, throwback to the heydays of Mid-Atlantic or a Florida style, or Mid-South for that matter.
As far as the tag-team division is concerned, well, great teams from a working end. Overall I prefer the MX though with Condrey. They may not of appeared as polished as with Lane, but, they were a better team with Condrey. They garnered more heat and money. Take a look at Mid-South in 1984 and a brief stint in WCCW where they were pushed. I also remeber a brawl in Shreveport which is the similiar concept used in the studio brawl they had. Except in MS it was Condrey and Eaton, Eaton with a pre-Foley chairshot to Fulton that holds up today with the lolipop kids.
I can go on and on as usual but im tired. Oh, wait before I go. Why in the hell was Eddie Haskell, Jason Hervey, and what's her name deciding over a World Title match in Mid-Atlantic? at the Greensboro Coliseum? That was not the MA I grew up enjoying. Four and a half years prior we had SC 83 in Greensboro. Two and a half years prior we had SC 85 and then CC 86, Bash 86, and SC 86(huge money maker) Then we have TBS tv stars officiating a World Title match, WTF. No wonder the diehards stayed away. It was the WWF comes to the Carolinas.
VR
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Post by stingmark on Apr 1, 2005 3:52:21 GMT -5
. Speaking of Flair, he had very little to work with, but made the best out of it and set to stars up in Sting and Luger within a four month span. To bad they inked big deals and phoned home too much. VR Flair's gone on record(both in his book and in countless interviews) as saying Sting was "worthy of being a champion". Maybe the ratings when he was world champ didnt mean that, but you must be a helluva worker/wrestler if they put the strap on you 9 times??? I'm a huge sting mark/fan. I think out of all(with maybe barry next in line before or after stinger) he was the best choice to succeed flair as champ in wcw. |
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Post by stingmark on Apr 1, 2005 3:53:15 GMT -5
Without re-hashing all of the points alreaqdy noted (and agreed upon)...... one thing that really sticks out to me is the initial run-in of Paul E Dangerously, Randy Rose and Dennis Condrey on Cornette, Eaton and Lane on TBS; where Cornette jucied all over the studio. That monent is still etched into my memory. As it is mine. Just got done watching that again this past weekend. Great stuff. You dont think you'll see condrey again, and then all of a sudden, he just shows up. |
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Post by VR on Apr 1, 2005 13:30:48 GMT -5
"Flair's gone on record(both in his book and in countless interviews) as saying Sting was "worthy of being a champion". Maybe the ratings when he was world champ didnt mean that, but you must be a helluva worker/wrestler if they put the strap on you 9 times I'm a huge sting mark/fan."
Ric Flair has gone on record saying A LOT of things. Many things Flair has said I agree with and many things I don't.
Sting may of fit the flavor of the month but in the long run he just didn't cut the mustard for ME. Sting was a lot like a Kerry Von Erich, with the right opponent he could flat out go. As far as 9 time champion is concerned, well that's a whole other story. Hogan was also a multi time champion, as were many others. Unfortunatley Hogan put a lot of arses every 18 inches were Sting did not. In his defense though Sting did work for, WCW, blech.
VR
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Post by VR on Apr 1, 2005 13:41:35 GMT -5
"but you must be a helluva worker/wrestler if they put the strap on you 9 times I'm a huge sting mark/fan."
No, they put the strap on you to draw money and keep them coming back. As for Sting the pizza man felt that Flair couldn't cut it anymore and was continuing to plat catch up with the WWF instead of offering an alternative. There is also the cycle that the buisness seems to go through.
Either way though the buisness changed it's tune as far as workers carrying straps like before it was given to Sting. At least imo the title had remained around the waist of a superior worker in Flair for many years after that fact. BUt, the buisness was different and in a lot of ways has always been the same, money is the bottom line.
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