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Post by RowdyRoddy on Oct 11, 2005 13:57:08 GMT -5
I was watching Starrcade '85 recently. It is a great card. Many of these 20 years later can still lace up the boots once a month and get in the ring while others are dead and still others are old and/or injured. Within the past year, I have seen or heard the following compete at indy or WWE shows:
Abdullah the Butcher
Dusty Rhodes
Ric Flair
Konga the Barbarian
Ricky Morton
Robert Gibson
Dennis Condrey
Bobby Eaton
Ivan Koloff
Jimmy Valient
Tully Blanchard
Buddy Landell
Krusher Khrushchev pinned Sam Houston to win the vacant Mid-Atlantic title.
"The Ragin Bull" Manny Fernandez beat Abdullah the Butcher in a "Sombrero on a pole Mexican death match."
"Cowboy" Ron Bass beat Black Bart.
Superstar Billy Graham beat Konga the Barbarian.
Buddy Landell pinned National champ Terry Taylor to win the title.
National Tag Team champs Ole & Arn Anderson beat US Tag Team champs "Chief" Wahoo McDaniel & Billy Jack Haynes
Magnum TA pinned US champ Tully Blanchard
Jimmy Valient & Miss Atlanta Lively beat The Midnight Express in an "Atlanta Street Fight."
The Rock n' Roll Express beat NWA Tag Team champs Ivan & Nikita Koloff
Dusty Rhodes pinned NWA champ Ric Flair
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Post by mattfarmer on Oct 11, 2005 14:22:15 GMT -5
Dusty Rhooosdessss wwoooo wwooooo!
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Oct 11, 2005 15:15:56 GMT -5
Was this the birth of the "Dusty finish" that we saw so many times at house shows in 1986, 1987, and 1988??
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Post by acezappa on Oct 11, 2005 15:55:59 GMT -5
I do believe it was. This was the first Starrcade I ever went to. I have the VHS and watch it from time to time.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Oct 11, 2005 19:51:45 GMT -5
I think that JCP made a mistake by moving Starrcade to the Midwest in November 1987 by bringing it to Chicago. The folks in Greensboro and Atlanta (or the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast for that matter) felt betrayed. Then, they did not even give the Road Warriors the tag team titles that night!
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Post by bobbyryates on Oct 11, 2005 20:05:23 GMT -5
Was this the birth of the "Dusty finish" that we saw so many times at house shows in 1986, 1987, and 1988?? nope. i saw that SAME finish in that SAME greensboro coliseum on 11/6/82 in a match when dusty beat ric flair for the title that night as well. and once half the crowd was out of the building, they came over the PA announcing that dusty was not the champ after all as the decison was reversed. wasn't my favourite at all that night to begin with. but that started my ongoing disgust for the man right then and there. |
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Post by stompingground on Oct 11, 2005 22:28:35 GMT -5
Terry Taylor vs Landel was a great match. The I quit match, though, is one of legend. Both Tully and Magnum came out on top in my opinion.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Oct 12, 2005 8:46:44 GMT -5
Blanchard and TA put on one of the best I Quit matches that I have seen (Flair vs. Funk in November 1989 is a good one as well).
So, the Dusty finish was given birth in November 1982. Wasn't Dusty wrestling in Florida at that time? Why would he wrestle Flair in Greensboro in late 82? I know that Crockett, Graham, Von Erich, Watts would sometimes exchange talent to increase gate receipts.
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Post by acezappa on Oct 12, 2005 15:05:22 GMT -5
I think that JCP made a mistake by moving Starrcade to the Midwest in November 1987 by bringing it to Chicago. The folks in Greensboro and Atlanta (or the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast for that matter) felt betrayed. Then, they did not even give the Road Warriors the tag team titles that night! I couldn't agree more. This was pretty much the beginning of the end for me. I never was a fan of the WWF, so it was either Crockett or nothing. I know as a fan I felt a little slighted by all that was going on. I know they wanted to make more money (hence the reason to start a business to begin with), but it just seemed like a betrayal to take Starrcade elsewhere. It wasn't very long after this that I stopped watching wrestling (for varying reasons.) I kind of wish I wouldn't have because I did miss out on some cool stuff, but ya live ya learn. |
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Post by bobbyryates on Oct 12, 2005 15:18:22 GMT -5
So, the Dusty finish was given birth in November 1982. Wasn't Dusty wrestling in Florida at that time? Why would he wrestle Flair in Greensboro in late 82? I know that Crockett, Graham, Von Erich, Watts would sometimes exchange talent to increase gate receipts. i doubt that was the actual birth of it knowing him. i bet it had been done a zillion times before. but it was the first time i saw it anywhere. as for why? i have no idea why dusty was a regular in florida and came to greensboro to fight flair. maybe the rest of the top faces were involved that night in other matches? that night, jack brisco fought paul jones, jimmy valiant went against jos leduc, while steamboat-youngblood beat slaughter-kernodle in a Bootcamp match. guess that's a possible reason. |
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Post by duke63us on Oct 13, 2005 14:22:38 GMT -5
Was this the birth of the "Dusty finish" that we saw so many times at house shows in 1986, 1987, and 1988?? What is the "Dusty finish"? Was it were Dusty would roll around on the mat for twenty minutes, catching his breath, while his opponent would work the match? "All kinds of pain, All kinds of Blues, All kinds of AGONY" ;D |
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Post by bobbyryates on Oct 13, 2005 15:59:34 GMT -5
i took this particular "dusty finish" as by him pinning flair with his feet on the ropes and tommy young didn't see that dusty was using the ropes for an illegal pin. he was announced as the new NWA champ, everybody celebrated and they made a big ta do about it. after most fans were out of the building, THEN they announced that flair was still champ because rhodes used the ropes. we knew the change hadn't happened because we heard the announcement. but the rest thought dusty was champ until the following saturday with the latest tv show.
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Post by duke63us on Oct 17, 2005 14:48:26 GMT -5
i took this particular "dusty finish" as by him pinning flair with his feet on the ropes and tommy young didn't see that dusty was using the ropes for an illegal pin. he was announced as the new NWA champ, everybody celebrated and they made a big ta do about it. after most fans were out of the building, THEN they announced that flair was still champ because rhodes used the ropes. we knew the change hadn't happened because we heard the announcement. but the rest thought dusty was champ until the following saturday with the latest tv show. I saw something similiar to that in Columbia, SC at the Township auditorium where Dusty was wrestling Tully Blanchard and won the TV championship from Tully, but then the following week on TV, Tully was still the TV champ. I always thought Tully won it back a few days later. Go figure. |
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Post by bobbyryates on Oct 17, 2005 16:28:50 GMT -5
likely done a zillion times with about every opponent he fought after it started.
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Post by RowdyRoddy on Oct 17, 2005 16:43:26 GMT -5
Whether it was Blanchard, Anderson, Flair, etc., Dusty would pin his opponent by either using outside interference, having a second referee (not the one assigned to the match) make the 1-2-3, etc. He was a master, in the 1980s, of making it look like he had won a title, when it was returned back to its' rightful owner once they both got back to the locker room.
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