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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 9, 2006 17:27:30 GMT -5
not to permanently ground the helicopters, but find out why they keep crashing. if not, then ground them. 'king' is reference to the position he is in. he is the king of the US empire. only an empire could do what this nation does and get away with it. it goes into other countries and set up the evil democratic system. democracy leads and ends up in communism. so why start what will one day become communist? look at this republic we live in. the republic is gone that was started by our forefathers. it has been pushed to be a democracy. that is what is bringing us down. and will bring down haiti and iraq. the haitians have already been fighting against democracy.
the stats, i figure were off some, but even off some, should be worse that need be.
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Post by precious1 on Apr 9, 2006 18:42:13 GMT -5
Nikita's stats were not far off
For Korea the stats were American deaths 54,200 Actual battle deaths 33,700 All having taken place between June 27, 1950-July 27, 1953
For Vietnam the stats were 58,148 killed of that 86% were caucasion 12.5% were black 1.5% were other races
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Post by stompingground on Apr 9, 2006 18:52:46 GMT -5
I have to disagree. An Empire does not set up independent governments. An Empire retains sovereignty over the countries they defeat. We are not setting up a US state in Iraq.
I agree that the new Iraqi "democracy" has little chance of succeeding. Mostly, because many in the US do not want it to succeed, at least until a Democrat becomes president.
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Post by natureboy14 on Apr 9, 2006 21:13:35 GMT -5
why is the ratings for bush sooooooooo damn important anyways, its not like he is running for reelection so in all honesty approval ratings dont make a rats ass bit of difference
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Post by GarvinStomp on Apr 9, 2006 21:55:25 GMT -5
if the Bush Administration is not careful, there will be a big backlash in this country in 2008 and Hillary Clinton will get elected president. The core Democractic Party faithful are far too liberal and left wing not to elect Hillary Clinton as their party's nominee. In primary elections, it is the hard core left wing people who vote in democratic primaries and the right wingers who vote in Republican primaries. If Hillary ever gets in the White House she would push hard for universal health care -- a system that would bankrupt our country. Homosexuals would have favored status and you would see abortion rights extended. Let us all pray she never gets elected.
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Post by bobbyryates on Apr 9, 2006 22:20:13 GMT -5
uh oh..you may have said the wrong words there. even though i agree...
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Post by bluedevil71 on Apr 9, 2006 23:02:21 GMT -5
Nikita's stats were not far off For Korea the stats were American deaths 54,200 Actual battle deaths 33,700 All having taken place between June 27, 1950-July 27, 1953 For Vietnam the stats were 58,148 killed of that 86% were caucasion 12.5% were black 1.5% were other races The stats I meant were the reasons for getting into war in World War II, etc.
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Post by bluedevil71 on Apr 9, 2006 23:04:50 GMT -5
why is the ratings for bush sooooooooo damn important anyways, its not like he is running for reelection so in all honesty approval ratings dont make a rats ass bit of difference Good point there. He can't run for re-election anyway AND his approval rating was low anyway, yet he still got elected in 2004. So ...
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Post by slickric1976 on Apr 10, 2006 4:59:15 GMT -5
OK first off I got the same email from friends and coworkers so I bet Nikita did not come up with this he just sent it to Greg like all of the USA does. Next thing this is a wrestling site not WAR 101. I love the USA and will not give my piont of view on the war because it gets people all worked up. Let all just say one thing and move on. And that is we can all have a view and that no person will change how we look at things also the news does what they wont with any info they get and we cant change that. I know this is everything else wrestling or not but Gov.and God will have people fight faster than someone calling your mom a B****.
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Post by fredatl on Apr 10, 2006 7:52:06 GMT -5
why is the ratings for bush sooooooooo damn important Actually, they are important for two reasons.... 1. Historically, they help shape how future generations will view Bush, but more importantly, 2. Being the leader of the republican party, the ratings also affect future elections (House, Senate, even local elections.) Fred, Atl.
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Post by fredatl on Apr 10, 2006 8:07:38 GMT -5
Who is using rhetoric now? Name some facts or back up your rants. Unemployment is less than 5%. Consequences? Actually, the way they report umpemployment is corrupt. If people stay unemployed for too long, they are "removed" from the statistics assuming "they have left the job market." This may be valid in the good years in an improving economy, but when friends and relative are starting their 3rd year looking for a job with no luck, to me they are still unemployed, even they they don't make up the 5% you quote. If you are going to quote statistics, make sure you understand how they are calculated. Fred*
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Post by superworker on Apr 10, 2006 11:45:31 GMT -5
I thought this was a wrestling website. What's with all the political B.S.?
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Post by christrester on Apr 10, 2006 12:17:53 GMT -5
I thought this was a wrestling website. What's with all the political B.S.? This is the off topic forum, where people are free to talk about what ever they want to talk about. Don't like it? Don't click on the topic
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Post by superworker on Apr 10, 2006 18:47:58 GMT -5
My Bad....I wont be back on here unless it's about wrestling
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Post by stompingground on Apr 10, 2006 19:59:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that the way the US figures unemployment is corrupt it is the only effecient way to determine a historical rate without doing a total US census every week. You are correct that every unemployed worker is not counted, however, no matter how you look at the unemployment rate I think that it is still historically low. For someone to not be able to find a job after three years in America is a shame, and I wish them all of the best. You are correct that using statistics is very impersonal and does not reflect the real lives that are affected.
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